Re: Bikepacking vs Backpacking

Wow this is beautiful!

Kind Regards, 

Diane 

On Jul 5, 2021, at 4:29 PM, John Dickson <johnkdickson55@gmail.com> wrote:



Since Shauna and I hiked the Appalachian Trail 4 years ago, from time to time we compare long distance bikepacking to long distance backpacking. Following are a few observations:

1. Backpacking you are on your feet most of the day. Bikepacking you get to sit on the bike most of the day. Win for bikepacking. 

2. While backpacking all your gear is on your back. While bikepacking most gear is on the bike. Win for bikepacking.

3. Conversation between us is often impossible while riding due to wind noise, road noise, and distance between us on the downhill. Conversation was much easier on the AT. Win for backpacking. 

4. Simply due to speed, we see much more while bikepacking. Win for bikepacking. 

5. There are very few equipment issues with a backpack. While bikepacking, we deal with tire pressure, chain cleaning, bottom bracket failure, brake pad wear, etc. Win backpacking. 

6. Hitching a ride to town is easy with a backpack. Good luck hitching a ride with two loaded bikes. (Although we did it once from White Post to Stephens City VA with a good ole boy in his pickup truck.) Win backpacking. 

7. Gear organization is easy with a backpack. 90% of our stuff simply goes in the backpack with a few things in the outside pockets. Bikepacking requires strategically placing heavy things in the frame bag, lighter things on the handlebars, other things in the seat post bag or fork bags, and odds and ends in top tube bags. Win backpacking. 

8. Riding a bike is way more fun than walking. Overwhelming win for bikepacking. 

9. At the end of a backpacking day, feet and legs are very tired and take some time to recover. Our bodies are much less tired and recover much more quickly after a day of bikepacking. Huge win for bikepacking. 

Bikepacking is the winner. 

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Horses or Cows?

We are 1500 miles into this thing and are waiting patiently for our first bear sighting. It will be a super thrill whenever it happens. In the meantime, we see plenty of Pronghorn antelope, elk, one coyote, deer, and beautiful wild horses. 

And cows. Lots of cows. They express their stupidity by watching us nervously as we approach, but instead of running away from the road before we meet them, they act completely startled as we are 5 or 10 feet from them, and only then do they run off the road. 

A few days ago on a paved road outside Pinedale WY, we came upon 250 cows and calves being driven to summer pastures. We could do nothing but stop and wait until the cows, cowboys, and cowgirls passed. It was better than a John Wayne movie. 

RE: Do I Know You?

It is a small world after all. 

John Knowles

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From: John Dickson <johnkdickson55@gmail.com>

Date: 6/20/21 22:00 (GMT-05:00)

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Subject: Do I Know You?

Just pulled into Orange Peel Bikes in Steamboat Springs, CO at 3:30pm. They had maintenance work on our bikes completed by 5:30. The way bike shops drop everything to give us immediate, excellent service makes us feel like rock stars. Gila Hike and Bike in Silver City NM, Sendero Bikes in Del Norte CO, Absolute Bikes in Salida CO, and OPB here in SS have all been most excellent.

Since we were able to have the maintenance work done so quickly late on a Saturday afternoon, we had all Sunday morning to thoroughly enjoy a 2 hour church conference zoomed from Ashburn VA to the Rabbit Ears Motel. What a great way to spend a Sunday morning worshipping Jesus Christ. Love it. 

You know how blown away you are when you meet somebody that you have a one in a million chance of meeting? Well, how about this morning when I approached a couple getting ready to head out on their Victory motorcycle. As I was oogling over the bike I noticed the Utah tags. I asked where in Utah they came from and couldn't believe it when she said Spanish Fork, the town of my wife's heritage. I excitedly asked them to hold on while I summoned Shauna.

I knew Shauna would about pee in her pants when I told her a couple from SF was in the parking lot. But when Shauna asked the lady's name and found out she was her cousin, but not just any old cousin, but a cousin Shauna regularly babysat, including feeding her a bottle, it's a wonder Shauna's pants remained dry. 

Another time we were on a long, long climb out of Salida CO. After about a third of the way up this climb we heard an approaching rider. Before we saw him we heard him ask, "Are you friends with Paul Vaughn?"  "Well, yes we are, but who are you and how the heck do you know that?"  Turns out our friend Paul Vaughn is buddies with this mysterious rider (Brian Steele) and gave him the link to our GPS dot. Brian, who lives near Salida, is a super cycler (he raced the 2,750 mile GDMBR in 27 days a few years ago) and had been dot stalking us until he could ride with us for an hour or so. Wonderful company up that long, long climb. Thanks Paul and Brian. 

We happened upon Papa Rojas, a CDT hiker taking a break beside a dirt road. As the conversation sometimes goes, I asked where he was from. Virginia. Wow, us too. Where in VA? Arlington. What?!? I was born and raised in Arlington. Where in Arlington? Ballston. This is really too much. Okay don't tell me where in Ballston, I'll tell you where,  because there is a decent chance I was the superintendent building the apartment you lived in. Let's try 851 N Glebe Rd, a 21 story, 412 unit high rise behind the Westin Hotel. Nailed it. On top of that, he worked for BF Saul, a developer with close ties to Clark Construction. No way. Unbelievable. 

I've got a few more of these that I'll save for another time. But I'll certainly let you know if tomorrow we run into Donald Trump. Now that would be one big fat chance encounter. 

Settling In

After finishing our third week on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route, we feel like we are figuring this thing out. We've ridden 780 miles so far, which works out to about 37 miles/day including two zero days. 

The landscape and camping have been off the chart good and diverse. Sometimes tenting in a cow pasture, other times in stunning forests. And even other nights sleeping in one type of accommodation or another. 

We typically get up at 5am, and will be riding by 7:30. We usually start looking for a campsite around 5pm unless we know a motel is an hour or less away. If we start setting up camp by 5 or 5:30, we will be in the bags by 7:30 or 8. Most nights it is cold enough at 8 that we are in the bag, rather than laying on the bag. 

One example of how accommodations just work out for the best happened in Horca CO. We pulled into the tiny community of Horca at about 6:00 tired and hungry and spotted what I thought was an RV park, although there were small cabins mixed in with the camper trailers. Certainly we could tent somewhere there.  In the park, I flagged a man down driving a side by side 4×4. 

When I asked where the RV park office was to ask permission to tent,  he said there is no office, these were all private residences. He referred me to a public campground a mile away that we had just passed. I'm sure he noticed that his answer didn't set well with me, but we rode off anyway, back, uphill to the campground. 

After using the camp privy and unloading a couple days of trash in the bearproof dumpster,  we made our way to the self check in station. As we studied the check in procedure, we heard a side by side 4x4 approach. It was the same fella who directed us to this campground. He said he came over to check on us because, "I couldn't get you out of my heart".... and asked if we wanted to sleep and shower in his 5th wheel camper trailer next to his summer cabin.

When I'm tired and hungry, and about to embark on 45 minutes of camp setup chores, and just then some stranger opens up his home to us, emotions are sometimes close to the surface. We answered that we would be forever grateful to sleep and shower in his trailer. 

Almighty God is good.